Filesystem ExFAT

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Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:55 am

Just started with a 3442 TV Gateway and seems just what I was after... except no ExFAT support? (Or at least my Western Digital MyPassport drive shows as "Your recording path is not valid / connected")

The drive I use for recordings also includes files >4Gb but is also used on a mix of Mac/Windows/Linux, so ExFAT required.
Could this be updated in a future software update please?

Thanks for a great bit of kit though, hopefully I can get rid of my full TiVo box now.
Barry

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by beeka » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:29 pm

exFAT has patents and requires a license to use. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/i ... nsing.aspx

Even larger organisations, such as QNAP, get you to pay for it if you want it... so don't see vbox getting support any time soon.

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by admin@vbox » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:09 pm

Hi we do support NTFS which you should be able to access from your Mac using the right addon
Please note that the VBox USB port is low powered and therefore you may need to use an external power source to power your HDD when connecting it to the VBox - alternatively you can connect a powered USB hub to the VBox and connect the HDD to the hub this way the hub will power your HDD or connect your HDD to your network router (if your router supports that) and set the network recording path

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:01 pm

Ok, thanks for the clarification. NTFS is read only on Mac, so maybe it's time to switch to ext3 and drop Window$.

Cheers, DJB

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by admin@vbox » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:51 am

There are a number of paid NTFS write utilities for Mac...
Anyway I have good news :-) we already support EXT 2, EXT 3, EXT 4

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:11 pm

Hi again. OK, I've just bought a new 3Tb WD Elements My Passport drive to use with the TV gateway 3442 and formatted to NTFS under Windows 10.
Having spent the last 24hrs copying my existing media files to it (~1Tb) from my Mac using FuseOX/NTFS-3G, I've connected it to the TV Gateway... and it doesn't mount it.

Can you please advise? It looks like the mount options need the "iocharset=utf8" removing?

Cheers,
Barry

The error log reports:

Dec 17 16:55:59 kernel: usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using stm-ehci
Dec 17 16:55:59 kernel: scsi3 : usb-storage 3-1:1.0
Dec 17 16:56:00 kernel: scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD Elements 10B8 1021 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
Dec 17 16:56:00 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Spinning up disk...
Dec 17 16:56:00 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
Dec 17 16:56:01 /USR/SBIN/CRON[19975]: (root) CMD ( /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3 && /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=0)
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: ........ready
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] 5860466688 512-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.72 TiB)
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] 4096-byte physical blocks
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sda: sda1
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 17 16:56:08 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: REISERFS warning (device sda1): super-6502 reiserfs_getopt: unknown mount option "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: FAT-fs (sda1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): parse_options(): Option iocharset is deprecated. Please use option nls= in the future.
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: yaffs: dev is 8388609 name is "sda1" rw
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: yaffs: passed flags "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: yaffs: Bad mount option "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: yaffs: dev is 8388609 name is "sda1" rw
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: yaffs: passed flags "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 17 16:56:14 kernel: yaffs: Bad mount option "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 17 16:56:16 [networking]: Error in USB disk: mounting didn't succeed. removing Media folder & not refreshing record path
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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by admin@vbox » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:35 am

Thanks for sending the log
We're looking into it

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:20 am

Thanks for the quick reply, greatly appreciated. FYI, I've tried formatting my older WD passport (500Gb) drive, and copied just a few files to it (from Mac/NTFS-3G) and that seems to work fine, despite also showing the "iocharset=utf8". On connection of this smaller drive, it reports the following:

Dec 18 10:13:50 kernel: usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using stm-ehci
Dec 18 10:13:51 kernel: usb-storage 3-1:1.0: Quirks match for vid 1058 pid 0704: 8000
Dec 18 10:13:51 kernel: scsi1 : usb-storage 3-1:1.0
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD 5000BMV External 1.75 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB)
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sda: sda1
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 18 10:13:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Dec 18 10:13:58 ntfs-3g[13877]: Version 2011.4.12 external FUSE 29
Dec 18 10:13:58 ntfs-3g[13877]: Mounted /dev/sda1 (Read-Write, label "Baz_DVD", NTFS 3.1)
Dec 18 10:13:58 ntfs-3g[13877]: Cmdline options: iocharset=utf8
Dec 18 10:13:58 ntfs-3g[13877]: Mount options: iocharset=utf8,allow_other,nonempty,atime,fsname=/dev/sda1,blkdev,blksize=4096
Dec 18 10:13:58 ntfs-3g[13877]: Ownership and permissions disabled, configuration type 1
Dec 18 10:14:00 HttpControlApp: (705) [HTTP_CTL] [A] HTTP Control RefreshRecordPath entered
Dec 18 10:14:00 HttpControlApp: (803) [HTTP_CTL] [A] HTTP Control RefreshRecordPath exited
Dec 18 10:14:01 /USR/SBIN/CRON[13905]: (root) CMD ( /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3 && /s

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by admin@vbox » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:30 am

Thanks,
Did you format both HDDs in the same way?
It seems that WD500 HDD is identified as formatted in NTFS 3.1 while the 3T is REISERFS

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:56 am

Hi, thanks again for the swift reply. As far as I'm aware they were done exactly the same. Viewing on my Mac is says NTFS. It's using a GUID rather than ?Master FAT if that's an issue? If so, I'll have to wipe it tonight (on Windows laptop) and try again, but wanted to check in case some other issue due to drive size/make first. I'll let you know how I get on.

In case it makes a difference to reformatting, I'm trying to use the TV Gateway with Kodi (or Plex) to also act as a media server. Would it make any difference being NTFS or Ext3? I've noticed I can't 'scrape' the media (to get the nice library image based interface) with Kodi using uPnP, but would require something like NFS or SMB (?or other option?) - are either of these supported by the TV gateway under NTFS or Ext3?

Thanks again for the help :)

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