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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by admin@vbox » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:10 am

Hi we are working with Plex to add the VBox to their Live TV feature
I think that it will be best if you place your HDD on the network (connected to your router maybe) and just send the VBox reording path to the network storage, this way you will also be able to access this drive (HDD) from Kodi/Plex
The VBox is not an SMB server therefore you should should only be able to access your recordings over UPnP

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:59 pm

Hi again. I'm still having problems mounting USB drive. I've reformatted the WD 3Tb drive several times now, both on Windows 10 Pro (as NTFS) but still no luck mounting on the TV Gateway (same errors as previously).

On my Mac, I've also tried with Paragon NTFS tool (for r/w Segate drives, but seems happy partitions/formats other) which showed formatting ok:
Unmounting disk
Erasing
Progress
Formatting Volume ...
Creating file system structures.
Creating $UpCase for use in Windows 7 and later versions
NTFS format complete.
Bytes per sector 512.
Bytes per cluster 4K.
2794.29 GB total disk space.
2793.71 GB available.
Mounting disk

But when connecting to TV Gateway, it still gives the same errors.

I've tried splitting into 2 x 1.5Tb partitions (still GUID partition table as Mac Disk Utility says drive too big for FAT). I've formatted both partitions to NTFS format, but still get the same issue.

Any more issues as both the TV Gateway and the new 3Tb drive were bought specifically for use as a media server, and do from a small (500Gb) drive - the size of the Tivo box it's to replace. Or is 3Tb too big for TV Gateway to access? (Handy to know before I spend more time trying to work out how to get Ext2/3 on both mac and windows as final trial)

Thanks in advance,
Barry

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:04 pm

FYI, log file after adding the 2x1.5Tb partitions NTFS:

Dec 19 12:59:46 kernel: usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 15 using stm-ehci
Dec 19 12:59:47 kernel: scsi13 : usb-storage 3-1:1.0
Dec 19 12:59:48 kernel: scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD Elements 10B8 1021 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
Dec 19 12:59:48 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
Dec 19 12:59:54 vboxDaemon: (886) [PLATFORM] [A] TER TUNER 0: 554000, GUARD_1_128, MOD_256QAM, FEC_2_3, CHAN_BW_8M, Strength=100.00%, SNR=27.40, RFLevel=-67(dB), LOCKED, BER=0, FER=0
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Spinning up disk..........ready
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] 5860466688 512-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.72 TiB)
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] 4096-byte physical blocks
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sda: sda1
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 19 12:59:55 kernel: sd 13:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: REISERFS warning (device sda1): super-6502 reiserfs_getopt: unknown mount option "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: FAT-fs (sda1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): parse_options(): Option iocharset is deprecated. Please use option nls= in the future.
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: yaffs: dev is 8388609 name is "sda1" rw
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: yaffs: passed flags "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: yaffs: Bad mount option "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: yaffs: dev is 8388609 name is "sda1" rw
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: yaffs: passed flags "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 19 13:00:00 kernel: yaffs: Bad mount option "iocharset=utf8"
Dec 19 13:00:01 /USR/SBIN/CRON[670]: (root) CMD ( /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3 && /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=0)
Dec 19 13:00:02 [networking]: Error in USB disk: mounting didn't succeed. removing Media folder & not refreshing record path

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by Ant » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:25 pm

Have you tried just leave it in ext4 format?

As far as i know there is some difference between gpt and mbr types, whichone you are use for this hdd?

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:43 pm

The Mac Disk Utility required me to partition using GUID partition. I believe the Master Boot Record limit is 2TB, so makes sense.

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:00 pm

I've not managed to work out how to partition it to Ext4 from my MacBook. I've already installed Fuse for doing NTFS, but need to install more stuff for reading Ext2/3/4, and apart from then seeming to require command line mounting each time connected to Mac (and installing another tool for PC's), it's not clear if that'll let me actually repartition it or only read an already partitioned one. Any idea? Would prefer NTFS (or preferably exFAT) for compatibility with connecting to multiple OS.

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by Ant » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:21 pm

Well, i understand, usability is valuable, anyway i just leave it here:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questio ... el-capitan

Also why do you want reconnect this drive to another os?
Anything that vbox record is downloadable.

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:13 pm

I've just tried partitioning & formatting as Ext4 on a linux box (ubuntu from USB)... but get the same mount problem.

Can you confirm the TV Gateway be able to:
1) read GUID partition?
2) read a 3Tb USB drive?
3) on 3Tb drive, mount as single partition or multiple (and primary vs extended)?

Regarding different OS support, the drive is holding all my media and used intermittently between 3 locations:
a) normally with TVGateway and good internet
b) my partners house with Windows but without good internet
c) occasionally used offline with MacBook when travelling.

The ability to use/transfer off the recordings via PC rather than just proprietary fixed size hardware was the main reason for buying the TV Gateway :)

The TV gateway will just be kept at 1 location with good internet and with old smaller drive to catch recordings when main disk not connected. I don't watch much TV, but the Gateway will be perfect to catch occasional grab films & documentaries (Attenborough) for watching later as well as server my old DVDs, but also means the kids can watch something different films in their rooms :) Seems like a great device from initial use with small drive... although search/record from the EPG on iPhone or via Kodi isn't as good as the Tivo yet... hopefully in time :) Keep up the great work...

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Re: Filesystem ExFAT

Post by DJB » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:38 pm

I've just partitioned & formatted the drive with its disks tool to MBR (not GUID) as 2 partitions of 1.5Tb. Formatted 1st partition only to NTFS
(Booted very old PC with Ubuntu linux using USB stick.)

Mounted ok!! (see below). I’ll keep experimenting on size and if uPnP access to 2nd partition, but I guess this is either the 2Tb or GUID is an issue (hopefully updatable in firmware at some point?)

Dec 19 18:20:47 kernel: usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 8 using stm-ehci
Dec 19 18:20:47 kernel: scsi6 : usb-storage 3-1:1.0
Dec 19 18:20:48 kernel: scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD Elements 10B8 1021 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
Dec 19 18:20:48 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Spinning up disk...........ready
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] 5860466688 512-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.72 TiB)
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] 4096-byte physical blocks
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 19 18:20:56 kernel: sda: sda1
Dec 19 18:20:57 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Dec 19 18:20:57 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
Dec 19 18:20:57 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 19 18:20:57 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Dec 19 18:21:01 /USR/SBIN/CRON[17358]: (root) CMD ( /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3 && /sbin/sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=0)
Dec 19 18:21:04 ntfs-3g[17371]: Version 2011.4.12 external FUSE 29
Dec 19 18:21:04 ntfs-3g[17371]: Mounted /dev/sda1 (Read-Write, label "Video", NTFS 3.1)
Dec 19 18:21:04 ntfs-3g[17371]: Cmdline options: iocharset=utf8
Dec 19 18:21:04 ntfs-3g[17371]: Mount options: iocharset=utf8,allow_other,nonempty,atime,fsname=/dev/sda1,blkdev,blksize=4096
Dec 19 18:21:04 ntfs-3g[17371]: Ownership and permissions disabled, configuration type 1

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